{"id":64295,"date":"2025-04-30T00:01:21","date_gmt":"2025-04-29T22:01:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.3dnatives.com\/en\/?p=64295"},"modified":"2025-04-29T17:29:01","modified_gmt":"2025-04-29T15:29:01","slug":"yoav-zeif-current-state-of-the-am-market-u-s-tariffs-neo800-3d-printer-300420254","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.3dnatives.com\/en\/yoav-zeif-current-state-of-the-am-market-u-s-tariffs-neo800-3d-printer-300420254\/","title":{"rendered":"Yoav Zeif Talks About the Current State of the AM Market, U.S. Tariffs and the Launch of Stratasys&#8217; Neo\u00ae800+ 3D Printer"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">What does 2025 hold for the world of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.3dnatives.com\/en\/what-is-additive-manufacturing\/\">additive manufacturing<\/a>? Amid geopolitical challenges, technological evolutions and new market balances, the 3D printing industry is gearing up for what is likely to be a critical year. To analyze emerging trends and understand the direction the industry will take, 3Dnatives caught up with Yoav Zeif, CEO of Stratasys at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.3dnatives.com\/en\/stratasys-showcases-automotive-applications-at-rapid-tct-2025-150420255\/\">RAPID + TCT 2025<\/a>.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:6,&quot;335551620&quot;:6,&quot;335559738&quot;:240,&quot;335559739&quot;:240,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">In an exclusive interview, Filippos Voulpiotis, Managing Director of 3Dnatives, spoke with Zeif about hot topics such as the impact of U.S. tariffs, the exponential growth of the Asian market and the increasingly central role of AM in advanced manufacturing. Yoav Zeif also talked about where there is hope for the industry and how to turn these challenging times into an opportunity.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:6,&quot;335551620&quot;:6,&quot;335559738&quot;:240,&quot;335559739&quot;:240,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">It seems that Stratasys is working to do just that by focusing on top-of-the-line industrial solutions that make professionals&#8217; lives easier while ensuring quality and performance. At RAPID + TCT, the company launched its new Neo\u00ae800+ machine that promises to be a breakthrough in large-format resin 3D printing. We took a closer look at what this launch means for the company and the market.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:6,&quot;335551620&quot;:6,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:240,&quot;335559739&quot;:240,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><div class=\"dnati-inside-article-leaderboard\" style=\"text-align: center;\" id=\"dnati-1231185211\"><a data-no-instant=\"1\" href=\"https:\/\/us06web.zoom.us\/webinar\/register\/3717757396787\/WN_sBfwcCHoQSq1mEANYpWa6Q\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"a2t-link\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"LB (3)\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.3dnatives.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/04\/LB-3.gif\" alt=\"\"  width=\"850\" height=\"150\"   \/><\/a><\/div>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">The Three Pillars for Industrial AM: Prototyping, Tooling and End-Use Part Manufacturing<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:6,&quot;335551620&quot;:6,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:240,&quot;335559739&quot;:240,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/h3>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">In the interview, Yoav Zeif elaborated on Stratasys&#8217; long-term strategy and their most recent launch: the Neo\u00ae800+ SLA machine, an evolution of the Neo\u00ae800. The launch is part of a targeted strategy for Stratasys to respond to current market demands in terms of production quality and cost reduction.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:6,&quot;335551620&quot;:6,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:240,&quot;335559739&quot;:240,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Industry professionals, Zeif noted, need to generate value and a concrete response to their current needs. In his eyes, the three pillars of the AM market are prototyping, tooling and end-use part manufacturing. For these, industrial companies demand quality, reliability and cost reduction through material and process innovation, with the ultimate goal being to enable users\u2019 project, whatever they are. But how are these reflected in Stratasys&#8217; new Neo\u00ae800+ 3D printer?<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:6,&quot;335551620&quot;:6,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:240,&quot;335559739&quot;:240,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b><span data-contrast=\"none\">The New Neo\u00ae800+ Large-Format SLA 3D Printer From Stratasys<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:6,&quot;335551620&quot;:6,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:240,&quot;335559739&quot;:240,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/h3>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">The development of <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.stratasys.com\/en\/contact-us\/talk-to-an-expert-neo800plus\/?utm_source=pressrelease&amp;utm_medium=organic&amp;utm_campaign=neo800-plus\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">the new Neo\u00ae800+ SLA\u00a0 3D printer<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\"> for Stratasys stems from an observation: users of SLA 3D printers often face difficulties in producing high-quality, precision 3D printed parts for prototyping or tooling applications. Parts made with legacy or non-industrial <\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">SLA 3D printers<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\"> can be inaccurate, necessitating time-consuming post-processing and thus increased time and cost.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:6,&quot;335551620&quot;:6,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:240,&quot;335559739&quot;:240,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">The Neo\u00ae800+ is described by Stratasys as a prime solution to these challenges. This is made possible by new hardware, updated software and a state-of-the-art scanning system. With a substantial 800 x 800 x 600 mm print volume, a 4W laser, scanning speeds up to 20 m\/s (790 in\/s) and layer resolution of 50 to 200 \u00b5m, the machine is designed to help users increase productivity and achieve higher yields while maintaining a high standard of part fidelity.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_64300\" style=\"width: 710px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-64300\" class=\"wp-image-64300 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.3dnatives.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/04\/Neo\u00ae800.jpg\" alt=\"Neo\u00ae800+\" width=\"700\" height=\"400\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.3dnatives.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/04\/Neo\u00ae800.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.3dnatives.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/04\/Neo\u00ae800-600x343.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.3dnatives.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/04\/Neo\u00ae800-160x91.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-64300\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Neo\u00ae800+\u2019s build chamber (photo credits: Stratasys)<\/p><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Furthermore, ScanControl+ technology and High Detail (HD) mode allow users to adjust laser power, motion and focus. This enables the Neo\u00ae800+ to achieve average scanning speeds that are up to 50% faster than its predecessor model, without compromising quality.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:6,&quot;335551620&quot;:6,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:240,&quot;335559739&quot;:240,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">In terms of materials, the system is compatible with Somos resins, such as Somos WaterShed XC +, certified for ScanControl+ technology, while also being open to other <\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">commercially-available 355 nm resins<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">. Finally, Stratasys Neo Titanium software offers fast, efficient SLA build control with a user-friendly interface and powerful reporting tools, continuously improved through customer feedback. Reliability is ensured by features such as Z-Stage Collision Detection, Vacuum System Protection, and real-time monitoring of temperature and humidity. These optimizations should allow an average increase in yield, compared to the Neo\u00ae800, with 39% more parts produced and 44% more tooling mold yield. Undoubtedly interesting data for those wishing to invest in the technology.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:6,&quot;335551620&quot;:6,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_64303\" style=\"width: 710px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-64303\" class=\"wp-image-64303 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.3dnatives.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/04\/Neo800performance-1-1.png\" alt=\"Neo\u00ae800+\" width=\"700\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.3dnatives.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/04\/Neo800performance-1-1.png 700w, https:\/\/www.3dnatives.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/04\/Neo800performance-1-1-600x257.png 600w, https:\/\/www.3dnatives.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/04\/Neo800performance-1-1-160x69.png 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-64303\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Build time study comparing the Neo800 and Neo800+ (photo credits: Stratasys)<\/p><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">All this means that the <\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Neo\u00ae800+ machine<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\"> is more than a new machine on the market; rather, it is considered by Stratasys to be the new benchmark for high-speed, large-format stereolithography for industrial use thanks to its guaranteed reliability, and repeatability.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;335551550&quot;:6,&quot;335551620&quot;:6,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:0}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">In the video, Yoav Zeif also discussed the growing Chinese market and the tariffs imposed by President Trump and how he believes these will take the AM market into a new phase. Don\u2019t miss the full interview below to hear all his insights:<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:6,&quot;335551620&quot;:6,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:240,&quot;335559739&quot;:240,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/pbQ59Z06Lbc?si=weoFcTGs-IUhty-4\" width=\"700\" height=\"400\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span class=\"TextRun SCXW143814210 BCX0\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"none\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW143814210 BCX0\">If you would like to learn more about the Neo\u00ae800+ machine from Stratasys, register for free for our <\/span><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW143814210 BCX0\">webinar<\/span> <\/span><a class=\"Hyperlink SCXW143814210 BCX0\" href=\"https:\/\/us06web.zoom.us\/webinar\/register\/4717455895082\/WN_hS7xOuWSRomtxLA0_lU5Tg#\/registration\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><span class=\"TextRun Underlined SCXW143814210 BCX0\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"none\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW143814210 BCX0\" data-ccp-charstyle=\"Hyperlink\">HERE<\/span><\/span><\/a><span class=\"TextRun SCXW143814210 BCX0\" lang=\"EN-US\" xml:lang=\"EN-US\" data-contrast=\"none\"><span class=\"NormalTextRun SCXW143814210 BCX0\">. 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